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		<title>By: Baltimoron</title>
		<link>http://warrocketajax.com/2009/08/24/episode-2-a-dialogue-w-caitlin-kittredge/comment-page-1/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Baltimoron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m getting in late here, but I&#039;m a new listener and just heard this particular installment yesterday.

For my money, the master of dialogue is David Mamet.  I had an English teacher in high school who assigned &quot;American Buffalo&quot; and I was amazed by Mamet&#039;s writing.  He writes ultra-naturalistic dialogue that frequently consists of the sort of sentence fragments, incomplete thoughts, and one or two word answers that people actually employ in daily conversation.  It can be maddening when reading a script because real conversation relies so much on non-verbal elements to communicate meaning, but it lends itself perfectly to performance because of the visual element.

Mamet&#039;s style would work wonderfully for comics and aspiring creators could learn a thing or two from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m getting in late here, but I&#8217;m a new listener and just heard this particular installment yesterday.</p>
<p>For my money, the master of dialogue is David Mamet.  I had an English teacher in high school who assigned &#8220;American Buffalo&#8221; and I was amazed by Mamet&#8217;s writing.  He writes ultra-naturalistic dialogue that frequently consists of the sort of sentence fragments, incomplete thoughts, and one or two word answers that people actually employ in daily conversation.  It can be maddening when reading a script because real conversation relies so much on non-verbal elements to communicate meaning, but it lends itself perfectly to performance because of the visual element.</p>
<p>Mamet&#8217;s style would work wonderfully for comics and aspiring creators could learn a thing or two from it.</p>
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		<title>By: War Rocket Ajax &#8211; The Greatest Comic Book and Pop Culture Podcast In the World! &#187; Fourth Guest! Colleen Coover! All Ages!</title>
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		<dc:creator>War Rocket Ajax &#8211; The Greatest Comic Book and Pop Culture Podcast In the World! &#187; Fourth Guest! Colleen Coover! All Ages!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also, previous guest Caitlin Kittredge&#8217;s fourth Nocturne City novel, Witch Craft, was released yesterday. Go buy it now! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://warrocketajax.com/2009/08/24/episode-2-a-dialogue-w-caitlin-kittredge/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance of the cut out GI Joe conversation with Caitlin that Chris mentioned on ISB seeing the light of day as a &quot;special feature&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance of the cut out GI Joe conversation with Caitlin that Chris mentioned on ISB seeing the light of day as a &#8220;special feature&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Euge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Vinny. Admittedly, tackling &quot;Dialogue&quot; as a broad topic for the second ep may have been a bit lofty. We tried to keep it focused on dialogue and general writing structure, but it&#039;s such a huge topic. Stick with us, and the structure will only get tighter. 

Great points on the &quot;di&quot; art of dialogue, and I totally agree, and it is sometimes easier to single out great monologues as general &quot;dialogue&quot; mistakenly. We did mention Ellis, but skipped over it since we threw in kind of a blanket statement about how great he can be, and Moore is a given. 

I should also add MY favorite dialogue (I blanked on the question, and cut out a rambly answer) comes a lot from the Hellboy comics, which admittedly might fall more into the monologue-ish category you were talking about. I&#039;m also a big fan of Craig Thompson&#039;s writing in Blankets, with the ending line:

&quot;How satisfying it is to leve a mark on a blank surface, to make a map of my movement, no matter how temporary&quot;

Which again, is narration, not dialogue. But still moves me deeply whenever I read it. 

So there you go, a minor thesis for a minor thesis.  Thanks for the constructive comments, and hope you stay tuned. Like I said, the topics and structure will only get tighter (hopefully).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Vinny. Admittedly, tackling &#8220;Dialogue&#8221; as a broad topic for the second ep may have been a bit lofty. We tried to keep it focused on dialogue and general writing structure, but it&#8217;s such a huge topic. Stick with us, and the structure will only get tighter. </p>
<p>Great points on the &#8220;di&#8221; art of dialogue, and I totally agree, and it is sometimes easier to single out great monologues as general &#8220;dialogue&#8221; mistakenly. We did mention Ellis, but skipped over it since we threw in kind of a blanket statement about how great he can be, and Moore is a given. </p>
<p>I should also add MY favorite dialogue (I blanked on the question, and cut out a rambly answer) comes a lot from the Hellboy comics, which admittedly might fall more into the monologue-ish category you were talking about. I&#8217;m also a big fan of Craig Thompson&#8217;s writing in Blankets, with the ending line:</p>
<p>&#8220;How satisfying it is to leve a mark on a blank surface, to make a map of my movement, no matter how temporary&#8221;</p>
<p>Which again, is narration, not dialogue. But still moves me deeply whenever I read it. </p>
<p>So there you go, a minor thesis for a minor thesis.  Thanks for the constructive comments, and hope you stay tuned. Like I said, the topics and structure will only get tighter (hopefully).</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity, do you guys sort of have a checklist of things to discuss/mention regarding the actual topic? I hate to sound fussy, and I gots nothin&#039; against just wingin&#039; it so the podcast sounds open and natural, but I do actually tend to like podcasts more when the hosts at least have a skeleton of discussion points for the topic at hand.

And of course, maybe you guys do have one, and I&#039;ve ended up sounding like an ass. Sorry :D

Here&#039;s my main sticking point about dialogue. I totally agree with Chris and Caitlin about some of the great lines in comics. But something that I personally think sets great dialogue apart from good dialogue is...well, the &quot;di&quot; part. Great dialogue is when characters really feel like they&#039;re talking to each other. I love Quentin Tarantino and Frank Miller to death, and I&#039;ll agree they come up with great lines and great monologues, but great dialogue is something that they rarely actually give. That&#039;s part of the style of their writing, having characters so independent and badass that it&#039;s great to just hear them &quot;think aloud&quot;. 

But that&#039;s why I always give Alan Moore, Warren Ellis, and my personal master example, Garth Ennis, the edge when it comes to this. When Tommy Monaghan sits in a bar moaning about his internal conflicts in Hitman, you actually get the sense that he&#039;s unburdening himself, and that he really wants to hear what his pals have to say, and it is indeed always great to hear them respond. For all that Ennis is known for writing smug arseholes, he writes characters who really share their insights and feelings when they talk to each other, learning from each other to the point that it feels like payoff when they get to agreeing. Few things for me top the &quot;Laurel and Hardy&quot; exchange between Jesse and Cassidy in Preacher&#039;s second volume.

Minor thesis there, but I still loved the podcast and hearing all the thoughts on dialogue, guys. Rocket on! (/bad dialogue)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, do you guys sort of have a checklist of things to discuss/mention regarding the actual topic? I hate to sound fussy, and I gots nothin&#8217; against just wingin&#8217; it so the podcast sounds open and natural, but I do actually tend to like podcasts more when the hosts at least have a skeleton of discussion points for the topic at hand.</p>
<p>And of course, maybe you guys do have one, and I&#8217;ve ended up sounding like an ass. Sorry <img src='http://warrocketajax.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my main sticking point about dialogue. I totally agree with Chris and Caitlin about some of the great lines in comics. But something that I personally think sets great dialogue apart from good dialogue is&#8230;well, the &#8220;di&#8221; part. Great dialogue is when characters really feel like they&#8217;re talking to each other. I love Quentin Tarantino and Frank Miller to death, and I&#8217;ll agree they come up with great lines and great monologues, but great dialogue is something that they rarely actually give. That&#8217;s part of the style of their writing, having characters so independent and badass that it&#8217;s great to just hear them &#8220;think aloud&#8221;. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s why I always give Alan Moore, Warren Ellis, and my personal master example, Garth Ennis, the edge when it comes to this. When Tommy Monaghan sits in a bar moaning about his internal conflicts in Hitman, you actually get the sense that he&#8217;s unburdening himself, and that he really wants to hear what his pals have to say, and it is indeed always great to hear them respond. For all that Ennis is known for writing smug arseholes, he writes characters who really share their insights and feelings when they talk to each other, learning from each other to the point that it feels like payoff when they get to agreeing. Few things for me top the &#8220;Laurel and Hardy&#8221; exchange between Jesse and Cassidy in Preacher&#8217;s second volume.</p>
<p>Minor thesis there, but I still loved the podcast and hearing all the thoughts on dialogue, guys. Rocket on! (/bad dialogue)</p>
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		<title>By: jmags</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caitlin forgot to mention that she isn&#039;t engaged in an ongoing struggle with her fingers to fit more and more ridiculous rings onto them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caitlin forgot to mention that she isn&#8217;t engaged in an ongoing struggle with her fingers to fit more and more ridiculous rings onto them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Sims</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow. I have never read that Cartilage Head story (I&#039;ve been avoiding going back further than 2006 because I don&#039;t know what&#039;s in the second Dark Horse collection) but jeezum crow is that creepy.  That might actually make the current storyline EVEN SCARIER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow. I have never read that Cartilage Head story (I&#8217;ve been avoiding going back further than 2006 because I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s in the second Dark Horse collection) but jeezum crow is that creepy.  That might actually make the current storyline EVEN SCARIER.</p>
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		<title>By: Euge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, guys. 

And Cartilage Head, truly unsettling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, guys. </p>
<p>And Cartilage Head, truly unsettling.</p>
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		<title>By: K. D. Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. D. Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for another great podcast, guys! Really fun and I very much enjoyed the discussions about writing processes. I&#039;m really looking forward to tracking down Caitlin&#039;s books after this interview. 

Also, thank you for including my very, very important question. While she seems pretty darn awesome, I can safely say I will not be among the fans proposing marriage to her, due to her choosing B.A. over Howling Mad Murdock. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another great podcast, guys! Really fun and I very much enjoyed the discussions about writing processes. I&#8217;m really looking forward to tracking down Caitlin&#8217;s books after this interview. </p>
<p>Also, thank you for including my very, very important question. While she seems pretty darn awesome, I can safely say I will not be among the fans proposing marriage to her, due to her choosing B.A. over Howling Mad Murdock. <img src='http://warrocketajax.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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